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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2010, 22:21:32 »

Retrofitting the 158s with tanks is already proven. The problem is you then have to provide the emptying facilities at all their overnight stabling points. That could be a significant extra cost comparable with the work on the actual units, and I doubt any TOCs (Train Operating Company) will take it on until forced to by DfT» (Department for Transport - about).

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« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2010, 11:03:35 »

Didn't FGW (First Great Western) try and fit a timer delay to HST (High Speed Train) toilets to prevent them from being flushed in stations??

I recall seeing this only once on a HST set running BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) - PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains). But that was some time ago and i've not seen one since...!

I had another toilet incident on a SWT (South West Trains) service to Waterloo last Saturday, all the toilets on a 3 car 159 were LOOU (locked out of use)... Angry As we still had another 45 mins left of the journey, I sought out the Guard and explained that I needed to use a loo as a matter of urgency, and that waiting till arrival into Waterloo was not an option. He opened what was supposively the cleanest toilet for me to use under my own peril... Put it this way, I'm glad I hadn't already eaten my lunch Lips sealed Undecided Shocked
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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2010, 12:57:21 »

Didn't FGW (First Great Western) try and fit a timer delay to HST (High Speed Train) toilets to prevent them from being flushed in stations??

I recall seeing this only once on a HST set running BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) - PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains). But that was some time ago and i've not seen one since...!

I had another toilet incident on a SWT (South West Trains) service to Waterloo last Saturday, all the toilets on a 3 car 159 were LOOU (locked out of use)... Angry As we still had another 45 mins left of the journey, I sought out the Guard and explained that I needed to use a loo as a matter of urgency, and that waiting till arrival into Waterloo was not an option. He opened what was supposively the cleanest toilet for me to use under my own peril... Put it this way, I'm glad I hadn't already eaten my lunch Lips sealed Undecided Shocked

Nope, when CDL (Central Door Locking) was disengaged the toilets would not flush however I believe this plan was dropped as the electrics on HSts aren't exactly the best.
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2010, 01:49:00 »

Retrofitting the 158s with tanks is already proven. The problem is you then have to provide the emptying facilities at all their overnight stabling points. That could be a significant extra cost comparable with the work on the actual units, and I doubt any TOCs (Train Operating Company) will take it on until forced to by DfT» (Department for Transport - about).

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Tanks are all well and good until you get a stubborn 'deposit', back in my FSR (First Scot Rail) days and direct emission loos on 158s there wasn't much that couldn't be shifted with some courage and a rolled up Metro! I won't go into the trouble I have to go through with a Voyager!
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« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2010, 01:53:46 »

I won't go into the trouble I have to go through with a Voyager!

Avoiding breathing in, for a start?  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2010, 04:05:34 »

I won't go into the trouble I have to go through with a Voyager!

Avoiding breathing in, for a start?  Grin

Lol, well maybe in the past, I really don't think they smell any better or worse than other trains these days, only pong I've notice lately is from where sinks have overflowed and run along the floor to the vestibule carpet. Unfortunately people seem to keep putting toilet paper in the sink clogging the plug hole, subsequent passengers use the sink to wash their hands and eventually the water level gets high enough to register as movement on the sensor and then it keeps flowing until it overflows!
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2010, 17:33:21 »

back in my FSR (First Scot Rail) days and direct emission loos on 158s there wasn't much that couldn't be shifted with some courage and a rolled up Metro!

I'm highly impressed with your devotion to duty! I suspect many other guards might be tempted to take one look and lock the bog o.o.u... Wink

PS how on earth do you get rid of the rolled up Metro afterwards?  Shocked
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2010, 17:51:18 »

... there wasn't much that couldn't be shifted with some courage and a rolled up Metro!

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2010, 20:53:48 »

back in my FSR (First Scot Rail) days and direct emission loos on 158s there wasn't much that couldn't be shifted with some courage and a rolled up Metro!

I'm highly impressed with your devotion to duty! I suspect many other guards might be tempted to take one look and lock the bog o.o.u... Wink

PS how on earth do you get rid of the rolled up Metro afterwards?  Shocked

Lol, in the bin, wet end first!
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