Stock cascade of class 150s

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[Chris from Nailsea]

Thanks for your two recent posts, phile. 

I think I must point out that all of our members on this forum are here because we share your obvious interest in the railways - not because we are employed to be authoritative sources of definitive information about the niceties of the use of Class 150s in service.

If you are looking for such definitive confirmation, I'm not sure that any of our membership here (or indeed on any other similar forum) will be able to provide that, to your satisfaction.

However: you could ask the Train Operating Company the question directly?

[phile]

Hello Chris
I was not trying to be authortative on purpose but must admit the post could have given that impression.     Frustration because of conflicting information on not only this Forum but others also.   A member has in in the past invited diagramming questions
As you suggest perhaps ask FGW^▸ (First Great Western) direct.
Phil

[fatcontroller]

I may have asked this question  myself before due to the fact that I have also seen other posts requesting the same info but with conflicting replies.   Could any member, please, say definitely if the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) 150/1s and 150/2s have separate diagrams or are they all lumped together and just shewn as 150 Diagrams.  I am sure there is somebody out there who could confirm one way or the other to scotch the conflicting reports once and for all.   Would appreciate definite info rather than"I think".   Thanks in anticipation.

The diagrams are separated with regards to 150/1 or 150/2.
 

[phile]

Thanks very much for that Fat Controller.   Settles it at last.  Part of my fascination stems from the fact that from 1996 to 2000  I was the Unit Diagrammer for Wales and West at the time and from which Wessex followed.

[phile]

The 2 odd toiletless 57 carriages (refred to as 150209) have been seen refreshed and the numbers 150121 and 150127 painted on them.   So we know what we can expect to seen soon although I thought they would become 150021 and 150027.
Personally I cant fathom out yet what they would become as 1 coach is 52xxx and another 57xxx.  So what about the third vehicle.

[phile]

Have since the last thought of why not compare with 150001 and 150002 numbering.
The 3 vehicles in each unit are numbered 55xxx similar to Pacers.

[fatcontroller]

The two vehicles will retain their own numbers, 57209 and 57212.
They are being inserted into 150121 and 150127.

The new unit numbers will be........ 150121 and 150127.

The set numbers will not be changing.

[phile]

Sounds a sensible idea, as this would provide an option of transposing if the need were to arise similar to he flexibilty with the 3 Coach 158s although these are formed differently, i.e the odd carriage attached on end rather than in the middle as in the 150 situation.

[vacman]

would have made more sense to re-number the sets as 021 and 027 so that they show up as 3 car units for diagraming purposes, they wont be able to go to certain places as 3 car sets, Looe and Gunnislake spring to mind, I know that they are intended to stay in the Bristol area but anything is possible!

[fatcontroller]

would have made more sense to re-number the sets as 021 and 027 so that they show up as 3 car units for diagraming purposes, they wont be able to go to certain places as 3 car sets, Looe and Gunnislake spring to mind, I know that they are intended to stay in the Bristol area but anything is possible!

There are paperwork implications if the units are renumbered to 1500xx.
This is why they are staying as 150/1's.

Anything is only possible if you make it happen - it's not worth the hassle from the bosses to start messing about with where they go!

[phile]

150127 out and about this week as 3 Car with 57209 formed as Centre Car.
Believe 121 will be out next week with the other 57212 as Centre Car.   150127 seen working 08 00 Cardidd to Paignton yesterday.   Seems they will be usefil for deputising for 3 Coach 158s.   Wonder how soon before one reaches Portsmouth Harbour

[fatcontroller]

150127 out and about this week as 3 Car with 57209 formed as Centre Car.
Believe 121 will be out next week with the other 57212 as Centre Car.   150127 seen working 08 00 Cardidd to Paignton yesterday.   Seems they will be usefil for deputising for 3 Coach 158s.   Wonder how soon before one reaches Portsmouth Harbour

They will have their own diagrams starting Monday - they will be the new "LHCS^▸ (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock)" working to pretty much the same diagrams.

[phile]

Thanks for that info.  Originally the Severn Beach line being quoted as a candidate.    How the position has changed obver time.
I would assume that the 3 Coach Paignton 158 will now be released for alternative work.

[tramway]

I would assume that the 3 Coach Paignton 158 will now be released for alternative work.

On permanent 4 car Pompey/Cardiff's please. 

Noting on other threads members concerns about obtaining freeby nibbles in First Class, there are other areas of FGW^▸ (First Great Western) land where it would be nice if the advertised trolley service could actually board the train. 

[phile]

And a trolley service on the Portsmouth Saturday afternoons and Sundays.     Passengers have not "shut down" and are still travelling sometimes in large numbers.
I recall when FGW^▸ (First Great Western) published catering catering shortcomings on their websie, one could see that a trolley was not available on the afternoon Brighton virtually NEVER