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« Reply #195 on: September 08, 2011, 13:20:06 »

Might just be possible that the arrangment could be ending this week. hopefully the class 121 will also work so that another pacer doesnt have to be used to cover
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« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2011, 15:45:53 »

ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) still seem to have 150s to spare without these two depuising for 158s and even 175s.    The 121 is usually replaced by a 153 if not available although some times a Pacer.     
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« Reply #197 on: September 08, 2011, 15:53:34 »

I have read on wnxx about some drivers suggesting to take 1 of the class 142's in London Paddington as part of a farewell tour. I would  like to see the looks on people faces as a pacer turns up at Paddington
Round about 1998 and over the turn of that decade Wales and West used to run a 21 25 Cardiff to Paddington and returning at 01 45 via Bath.  FGW (First Great Western) (or their equivalent at that time) had withdrawn the service so Wales and West decided to bid for the gap in the days before DFT (Department for Transport) micro-managing.   It was booked to be worked by a 158 and proved quite popular until the SRA» (Strategic Rail Authority - about) put an end to it.     Now for the punch line !!!   One night due to non-availability of a 158, it was worked by a 143 and kept time !!!  It was also worked by a 150/2 on a very rare occasion.
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« Reply #198 on: September 08, 2011, 16:40:41 »

I have read on wnxx about some drivers suggesting to take 1 of the class 142's in London Paddington as part of a farewell tour. I would  like to see the looks on people faces as a pacer turns up at Paddington

It's been suggested before: see http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s81/chris64ex4/Rail%20odds-sods/142030ExeterWestYard10-06-2008.jpg  Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #199 on: September 08, 2011, 17:20:59 »

ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) still seem to have 150s to spare without these two depuising for 158s and even 175s.    The 121 is usually replaced by a 153 if not available although some times a Pacer.     
Since posting have learnt 150282 loaned by ATW to Northern Rail so that proves the point, I think, of their availability.
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« Reply #200 on: September 10, 2011, 13:39:20 »

ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) still seem to have 150s to spare without these two depuising for 158s and even 175s.    The 121 is usually replaced by a 153 if not available although some times a Pacer.     
Since posting have learnt 150282 loaned by ATW to Northern Rail so that proves the point, I think, of their availability.

There's a heated debate going on another forum now about North Wales having surplus capacity outside the peak summer season, while the North West seems to have a peak season all year because as soon as one event/season finishes, another starts, so there's always some lines that need more than the bog standard 2-3 carriages.
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« Reply #201 on: September 12, 2011, 20:53:23 »

Reported 150102 now arrived at the Marsh and 150101 out in traffic today but have no details of it's work
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« Reply #202 on: September 18, 2011, 19:00:48 »

I would prefer it to be definite information rather than a quote on WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) Forum but it appears that 150202 and 150214 are being prepared at Tyseley for transfer to FGW (First Great Western).    They are being reformed after being split to form middle cars in 150/0s to turn them into 3 Car Units and with through access between each coach.   I have read of a suggestion that the Driving Controls had been removed from the cabs as being redundant at that time so a process of re-fitting will have to be carried out.
I am aware that the ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) daily hires have finished but can anybody confirm if the SWT (South West Trains) 158 is still used on the afternoon Brighton diagram.     If still in use on FGW, my hunch is that it will remain until conditions are right for the 2 Car 158s to be formed into 3 Car Sets and provide 3 Cars on the Brighton.
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« Reply #203 on: September 19, 2011, 07:00:06 »

Round about 1998 and over the turn of that decade Wales and West used to run a 21 25 Cardiff to Paddington and returning at 01 45 via Bath.  FGW (First Great Western) (or their equivalent at that time) had withdrawn the service so Wales and West decided to bid for the gap in the days before DFT (Department for Transport) micro-managing.   It was booked to be worked by a 158 and proved quite popular until the SRA» (Strategic Rail Authority - about) put an end to it.     Now for the punch line !!!   One night due to non-availability of a 158, it was worked by a 143 and kept time !!!  It was also worked by a 150/2 on a very rare occasion.
Did the Pacer actually get to Paddington?

I know one made it to Reading, as per this uk.railway posting:
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At one stage the train out of Waterloo was the return working of a train from Pembroke Dock. Once a Pacer was allocated to the diagram - fortunately it was cancelled at Reading (though even Pembroke Dock to Reading all night in a Pacer isn't my idea of fun). If it had managed to get on to Southern metals someone would probably have stopped and red carded it for having lost half its wheels. ;-)
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« Reply #204 on: September 19, 2011, 15:50:55 »

Yes, the 143 reached Paddington
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« Reply #205 on: September 19, 2011, 19:35:07 »

Thought it went to Waterloo not Pad?
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« Reply #206 on: September 19, 2011, 19:46:30 »

To Paddington.    How I am be so certain as the train (21 25 ex Cardiff) replaced an FGW (First Great Western) train to Paddington which had been withdrawn.Could not have gone to Waterloo as Pacers are prohibited from 3rd Rail
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« Reply #207 on: September 19, 2011, 20:03:26 »

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'Tis a myth. They run in service every day over the 3rd rail in Merseyside. Similarly they ran to Eastleigh for refurb not that long ago.
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« Reply #208 on: September 19, 2011, 20:35:39 »

It was Railtrack Southern at the time who were apprehensive of them.    Ther also banned them on their patch altogether because they were afraid of them being too light weight to operate Track Circuits and not show up in Signal boxes.   Thar is why they are not allowed beyond Warminster for example.    Other TOCs (Train Operating Company) were not so apprehensive.     Special dispensation was obtained for them to go to Eastleigh
Apologies.   I shpuld have said Railtrack Zones not TOCs
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« Reply #209 on: September 19, 2011, 23:09:13 »

can anybody confirm if the SWT (South West Trains) 158 is still used on the afternoon Brighton diagram.

Yes, it's still used... I had the pleasure of sitting in declassified First Class Seating and a nice cup of coffee onboard last week Wink Grin Shocked
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