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« on: April 23, 2011, 19:40:10 » |
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RANT.....  The facility to prebook Weekend First (with non advance tickets) is being withdrawn but you will be able to pre purchase your Volo supplements instead... oh woopie doo.. What the ^&^ are they playing at?  ? |
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8 Billion people on a wet rock - of course we're not happy
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ChrisB
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 20:23:21 » |
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Ensuring 1st class doesnt get overbooked? Buy onboard is still available
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Sleepy
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 22:44:32 » |
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How can it be overbooked if seat reservations are provided ? Surely this was one of the benefits for groups of up to 6 wanting to sit together and avoid standard class "tombstone" barrier seats ! Seems FGW▸ want to push more into Advance 1st class tickets instead (or stop no show seat booking, as one of the good things with Weekend First is they are valid on any train that day if your plans change)
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ChrisB
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 00:14:33 » |
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First Class ticket holders fon't generally reserve their seat, knowing they can usually get a seat regardless. My suggestion is that too many are buying in advance & travelling on the popular services, leaving some occasions where 1st class ticket holders have found all seats taken on boarding.
Making Weekend First only availablr on-train, FGW▸ can ensure their premium fare payers are guaranteed a 1st class seat on whichever service they wish to travel on, without forcing them to reserve in advance, thus retaining complete flexibilty.
I see nothing wrong with this policy. You can either buy advance or turn up in good time to claim an empty 1st class seat, which I reckon will still be available, except on a very few very popular services.
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 06:36:30 » |
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I heard they are doing away with the complimentaries for weekend first upgraders
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ChrisB
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 08:07:04 » |
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I will ask the question....
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 10:26:36 » |
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I heard they are doing away with the complimentaries for weekend first upgraders
I'd be surprised if FGW▸ would do that. If they do, I would hope that they would reduce the price. Can't see that happening though unless FGW have seen a reduction in revenue since they introduced the zonal pricing system a couple of years back. Let's see what Chris can find out. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 17:44:40 » |
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Very much doubt it, the revenue they must make on some of the West Country trains must be substaintially greater than when it was ^10 a head!
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Sleepy
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 21:14:58 » |
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Just looked at NFM▸ 09 (from 22nd May) and no mention of any changes to FGW▸ weekend first upgrades ??
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ChrisB
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 21:26:41 » |
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THere are no changes, except that you can't buy in advance. THe NFM▸ doesn't cover that condition. And if the complimentary refreshments are being withdrawn, which somehow I doubt, those aren't covered in the NFM either.
btw - I won't get a definitive answer this week, as the two people that know for sure are both on leave.
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JayMac
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 21:44:26 » |
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I see little point in withdrawing the facility to pre-book Weekend First. I don't really understand the argument about lack of seats for full fare 1st Class passengers.
Who in their right mind buys a full fare 1st Class ticket for travel at the weekend?
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ChrisB
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 21:45:56 » |
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Advance tickets?
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 21:47:10 » |
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I see little point in withdrawing the facility to pre-book Weekend First. I don't really understand the argument about lack of seats for full fare 1st Class passengers.
Who in their right mind buys a full fare 1st Class ticket for travel at the weekend?
I did once on Virgin by accident - I was drunk at Euston station trying to get home to brum Forgot it was saturday morning and not still friday night |
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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JayMac
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 21:54:54 » |
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Advance tickets?
Which already have a seat reservation. If when you enquire to book a WF in advance of travel with your Standard walk-up tickets and there are no bookable seats available in 1st Class then, fair enough, don't sell the upgrade and advise the passenger to check for space whilst on board. If seats are available then who loses out if one of them is booked? Probably only the Train Manager...... ..... aah. Perhaps TMs‡ were complaining they were losing out on the commission. Now that would make sense. |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 21:58:04 » |
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Advance can be booked up to 6pm the day before.
Every Weekend First booked before that deadline (if a reserved seat) means one fewer 1st Advance able to be sold, doesn't it?
And what about those that are bought without reservation in advance? If they then sell out of 1st Advance on any train, and a Weekend First then turns up too.....! (small chance, but I bet it's happened)
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