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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2011, 14:18:26 »

The comment about moving house was mine and was meant tongue in cheek to a certain extent.  However it does underline the point that the quality (or lack of) of train service from an accepted commuter area would cause one to seriously consider the option.

Regarding the point about most trains being formed with the number of carriages they are scheduled to have - two questions:
1. Why is there now a regularity of 5 carriages instead of 6 - and it is announced on the new CIS (Customer Information System) so presumably not as scheduled? 
2. Is the 18.12 to HoT now scheduled to have 3 (instead of 5) carriages on a Friday as this appears to be the norm now

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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2011, 14:36:30 »

Possible answer to 1.....

Two turbo units are away at a time being 'refreshed'.....
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2011, 16:16:51 »

Just seen this on FGW (First Great Western) Live Updates:  Sad

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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2011, 16:22:40 »

Ouch.....one HST (High Speed Train) down, or out of place with the Bristol Parkway/Swindon overrun...
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2011, 18:30:37 »

1. Why is there now a regularity of 5 carriages instead of 6 - and it is announced on the new CIS (Customer Information System) so presumably not as scheduled? 


The CIS at SWT (South West Trains) stations (and probably others as well) always tells you how many carriages are on the next train to depart. I haven't experienced the new FGW (First Great Western) CIS yet, but perhaps this is a standard announcement / scrolling display for every departure irrespective of whether it has the right number of carriages.


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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2011, 23:41:26 »

Just seen this on FGW (First Great Western) Live Updates:  Sad

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This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 7.This is due to a train fault.


However that note later disappeared, suggesting that an HST (High Speed Train) was indeed found/revived to work the service. The FGW CIS (Customer Information System) announces how many coaches are in the train as a matter of course.
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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2011, 06:54:59 »

... and another this morning:

06:34 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington due 07:40

    This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 7.This is due to a train fault.

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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2011, 07:54:44 »

Its the HST (High Speed Train) that had the fire extinguisher thrown at it?....
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2011, 08:21:42 »

I suppose it might be a knock on effect of that but it won't be THE set as the 17:39 from Penzance is 2+8 not 2+7.
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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2011, 08:36:55 »

Yes, sorry, I meant knock-on from that failure
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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2011, 20:29:54 »

The main problem lies with the design of the coaches, there should be internal doors to create a better enviroment for the aircon unit. not sure if the chiltern sets have that modification.
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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2011, 01:39:36 »

not sure if the chiltern sets have that modification.

Nope.
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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2011, 09:50:42 »

not sure if the chiltern sets have that modification.

Nope.

It wouldn't help anyway - so many people stand in the doorway areas (either due to lack of seating, or simply because they are station hopping), that the doors would never close, either the sensors will keep opening them, or they lean on the buttons.

Happens all the time with the first class section doors.

Did some of the carriages used to have internal doors anyway, I am sure I recall seeing either the door (permanently locked open) or the space for a door in the framework around the opening of some carriages ?
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2011, 10:54:24 »

Did some of the carriages used to have internal doors anyway, I am sure I recall seeing either the door (permanently locked open) or the space for a door in the framework around the opening of some carriages ?

There used to be a glass door on the Class 165's separating what was the enlarged First Class section from Standard Class.  This small section was soon replaced (wisely) with two sets of four seats nearest the First Class compartment which look a bit odd in the context of the rest of the layout.
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2011, 11:12:24 »

There used to be a glass door on the Class 165's separating what was the enlarged First Class section from Standard Class.  This small section was soon replaced (wisely) with two sets of four seats nearest the First Class compartment which look a bit odd in the context of the rest of the layout.

Aaah! I always wondered why the layout seemed so weird on those! Thank you for the explaination Smiley

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