Stock for the Dawlish Airshow Thurs 18 August 2011

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[159jim]

Hi

What exact stock will the working for the Dawlish Airshow this year, since the 67s and 57s have gone? Ive heard lots of rumors about lots of different stock doing it, including HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train), Ive even heard 159s will be doing shuttles!

P.S. It would be nice to see actual 158s on the Sea Wall on Thursday.....

Thanks,
Jim.



Moderator note: Edited to fix date in thread title.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

hello mr blue shirt as salisbury last friday morning 

that is an interesting rumour, a hst would surly be the most likely option, someone with more recent knowledge will know how fgw are doing for units you could see just normal units in , multiple, a 158 or a few 158's i doubt, they tend to keep them out of devon now dont they?... im not sure if they still do the cardiff to paignton service anymore?

as for the 159's  well if IF and i doubt it that happened i cant see swt running it as route knowledge has probably expired now after a few years,also the rsp will have been altered accordingly after services were cut past exeter so unless fgw hire a unit or two off them....but then fgw staff wont be signed for the class 159 so no i doubt it

oh and while the virgin thunderbirds have gone, fgw do have class 57's and day coaches ............

[Nibat]

2 class 159 are being hired from SWT^▸ (South West Trains) that day, I can't remember the exact diagrams but they are moving between Taunton, Cardiff and Weymouth.  Staff from Exeter has apparently been refreshing the last couple of weeks to run them.  Something similar to what they did last year, but on different diagrams.

As per the extra units this year, they are 2  2x150's doing shuttle services between EXD^» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) and NTA^» (Newton Abbott - next trains).  In addition, some CrossCountry services are stopping additionally at Dawlish and a few HST^▸ (High Speed Train)'s are also calling.  There is no extra HST around this year, just the extra 150's.  And then most of the normal diagrams are strengthened to run as 3 or 4 car services.

And as per Class 158's on the seawall these days, 2C67 CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) to PGN (10.50 at Dawlish and the backworking 2U20 at 13.18) are usually formed of a 158+153.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

i thought only a couple of fgw staff worked 159's because of the weekly penzance working.... why would they spend money for one day ... why not just hire in some 158's from swt? doesnt make sence to me but hey ho

[devon_metro]

And as per Class 158's on the seawall these days, 2C67 CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) to PGN (10.50 at Dawlish and the backworking 2U20 at 13.18) are usually formed of a 158+153.

More often than not it is 150+153. However this will be formed of a 159 on the day of the airshow.

159 also working 0840 Bristol - Weymouth and 1110 return, 1655 Filton - Westbury then 1838 Westbury - Cheltenham (via Melksham I assume) and 2100 Cheltenham - Bristol.

[grahame]

... then 1838 Westbury - Cheltenham (via Melksham I assume) ...

We live in hope ... but that runs via Keynsham.   The previous service from Westbury via Melksham is at 07:02, but the following one does not leave until 19:32.   Bit of a gap 

[vacman]

i thought only a couple of fgw staff worked 159's because of the weekly penzance working.... why would they spend money for one day ... why not just hire in some 158's from swt? doesnt make sence to me but hey ho

the weekly PNZ working ended over a year ago! Bristol guards have been learning 159's, it's only a very basic conversion course from what I've heard.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

i thought only a couple of fgw staff worked 159's because of the weekly penzance working.... why would they spend money for one day ... why not just hire in some 158's from swt? doesnt make sence to me but hey ho

the weekly PNZ working ended over a year ago! Bristol guards have been learning 159's, it's only a very basic conversion course from what I've heard.

yes sorry my point on the penzance working was that even when it was running i doubt that many fgw staff would have been trained for them

[gaf71]

It's a 20 min conversion from 158 to 159 as they are almost identical.

[vacman]

And as per Class 158's on the seawall these days, 2C67 CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) to PGN (10.50 at Dawlish and the backworking 2U20 at 13.18) are usually formed of a 158+153.

More often than not it is 150+153. However this will be formed of a 159 on the day of the airshow.

I've seen it as a 150 only once, and I see this train most days, it was booked as the normal formation yesterday and thus formed, the 159's were only working some CDF-TAU^» (Taunton - next trains) and weymouth services.

[devon_metro]

Fair enough, maybe it's changed. When i've travelled on it it was a 150/2 + LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) 153.