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Author Topic: Chiltern Evergreen 3 project - ongoing discussion  (Read 257038 times)
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« Reply #615 on: December 12, 2016, 07:30:00 am »

I took advantage of the good weather to head out to take some photos and videos of trains over the new route. 

For those that are interested, the videos are here:  https://youtube.com/channel/UClFXwk-j9lwTzfg-Twa1fIQ
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« Reply #616 on: December 12, 2016, 11:33:11 am »

Good to see that the daily Bicester COD Didcot freight is routed via Oxford from to-day, cutting about 4 hours off its previous route via London (and 1 less freight cluttering up the Reading - Didcot RL's!).
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« Reply #617 on: December 12, 2016, 02:33:24 pm »

I see there have already been comments on twitter concerning the cost of tickets on this service, particularly when not originating at Oxford.

A quick check by me as an example for Didcot to High Wycombe (not an unreasonable journey) comes up with the cheapest return at 32. This is still the fare that is also valid via Banbury or London. There maybe ought to be some 'route Bicester Village' fares - although on this example it is still a bit indirect - as a split at Oxford costs 19.50.
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« Reply #618 on: December 12, 2016, 03:07:54 pm »

Here is the map for Tables 114 and 115 in the current GBTT.  Not difficult to spot the errors, unless of course you work on timetable production for NR!
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« Reply #619 on: December 12, 2016, 08:13:16 pm »

Oops! That'll be the new, new curve? Or is that the old, new curve?  Shocked
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« Reply #620 on: December 12, 2016, 08:19:41 pm »

Presumably the line from Aynho to Oxford North Junction has now closed and all Banbury trains are being diverted via Bicester!
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« Reply #621 on: December 12, 2016, 09:14:16 pm »

Also interesting to note that the map edition is quoted as December 2015............ Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #622 on: December 13, 2016, 03:09:31 pm »

Chiltern are already getting social media messages about 'several bust ups over seats' on the peak services (morning and evening) from Oxford including 'people sitting on the floor'. People who have been used to having no to little problem getting seats at Oxford Parkway and Bicester Village are already finding it a squeeze. Some were standing all the way from Bicester to London. The services from London in the evening peak were already often full to OXP before the extension into Oxford.
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« Reply #623 on: December 13, 2016, 03:17:47 pm »

Doesn't help Chiltern that they don't restrict Travelcard/Off-peak tickets back from Marylebone in the peaks as GWR do.  A few stock adjustments might need to be made, but perhaps that's not too surprising.

Off peak Chiltern trains looking very quiet with the GWR trains as busy as ever - might take a while for the word to spread.
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« Reply #624 on: December 13, 2016, 03:30:10 pm »

Indeed - complaints from season ticket holders about those with 'day tickets'. Will Bicester people shift back to North ...
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« Reply #625 on: December 13, 2016, 05:04:13 pm »

Indeed - complaints from season ticket holders about those with 'day tickets'. Will Bicester people shift back to North ...

One of the major concerns of the consultants and powers that be when a service has started well / better than expected is "will it last" and "is this people just trying it out?"  ... Been there and it's interesting to ensure that the early users are encouraged to become regular / permanent users over and above the proportion the cynics / dubbing Thomases expect!
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« Reply #626 on: December 13, 2016, 05:29:48 pm »

Indeed - complaints from season ticket holders about those with 'day tickets'. Will Bicester people shift back to North ...

How about a suitable notice on the seat backs?

"Season ticket holders are requested to give up their seat if they see a full fare passenger standing."

A reminder about who usually pays the least per day...

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« Reply #627 on: December 13, 2016, 06:48:14 pm »

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A quick check by me as an example for Didcot to High Wycombe (not an unreasonable journey) comes up with the cheapest return at 32.
And yet the price from Reading to Wycombe (via Islip or Banbury) is 23.90 return, just doesn't make sense.

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This is still the fare that is also valid via Banbury or London.
Whilst from Reading its via A OR B, there is no ticket for both routes like Didcot has.
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« Reply #628 on: December 13, 2016, 06:55:33 pm »

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A quick check by me as an example for Didcot to High Wycombe (not an unreasonable journey) comes up with the cheapest return at 32.
And yet the price from Reading to Wycombe (via Islip or Banbury) is 23.90 return, just doesn't make sense.
Fare set by ... Crosscountry!

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« Reply #629 on: December 16, 2016, 07:19:09 pm »

The couple of additional Chiltern trains that are using platform 3 and 4 at Oxford because they are too long for platforms 1/2 are causing all sorts of headaches on those two platforms that are already stretched almost to the max during the peak hours.
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