Officially 5 cars?

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[Timmer]

3-car turbo on the 1730 from Cardiff to be swapped for a 2-car turbo at Bristol TM^▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) this evening!

That will be cozy for commuters from Bristol this evening.

[Dispatch Box]

Are they finally going to bin those awful pacers, class 142 I think?.

[TonyK]

It certainly needs 5 cars at peak, as does anything that stops at Filton Abbey Wood.

[brooklea]

3-car turbo on the 1730 from Cardiff to be swapped for a 2-car turbo at Bristol TM^▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) this evening!

That will be cozy for commuters from Bristol this evening.

To be fair to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway), they did manage to provide a like-for-like 3-car turbo swap in the end.

[Clan Line]

Warminster 1 o'clock this afternoon.

Two 16?s nailed together heading to Cardiff.  A two car 150 heading for Portsmouth Harbour.

Progress ??

[paul7575]

Warminster 1 o'clock this afternoon.

Two 16?s nailed together heading to Cardiff.  A two car 150 heading for Portsmouth Harbour.

Progress ??

Yes, but walking before running.  There are just supposed to be two sets of 165/166 diagrammed daily, but they haven’t enough to run them both at 5 car.

You’d have also seen a 3 car (166213) at about 1500.  Stated elsewhere they are supposed to be running daily at 0730, 0930, 1530, and 1730 from Cardiff, and 1123, 1323, 1923 and 2123 from Portsmouth Harbour.

Paul

[Clan Line]

Warminster 1 o'clock this afternoon.

Two 16?s nailed together heading to Cardiff.  A two car 150 heading for Portsmouth Harbour.

Progress ??

Yes, but walking before running.  There are just supposed to be two sets of 165/166 diagrammed daily, but they haven’t enough to run them both at 5 car.
Paul

Sorry Paul, but I wouldn't describe what is happening on this line as "walking before running". The whole concept of replacing 158s with 165/6s is grossly flawed from the outset. To add insult to injury the existing (now nicely refurbished !) rolling stock is disappearing long before the replacement 165/6s are available and are being substituted by 150s. I don't call this progress - it is little more than a con-trick ! As I said in another thread, this is a repeat of the shambles when FGW^▸ (First Great Western) took over the franchise from Wessex.........except that this time the 3 car 158s are being replaced by 2 car 150s, instead of just 2 car 158s as they were then. Also, this time they are doing it to themselves - absolutely brilliant !!

[IndustryInsider]

I had a trip on a refurbished Class 158 the other week.  Very nice interiors for a long distance regional service but let down by the awful legroom I’ve always found disappointing with that particular fleet.

[TonyK]

Are they finally going to bin those awful pacers, class 142 I think?.

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) haven't had any 142s for over seven years.

[Celestial]

Are they finally going to bin those awful pacers, class 142 I think?.

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) haven't had any 142s for over seven years.

And Pacers of any description have never been used on the Portsmouth to Cardiff run on any regular basis (thankfully!), so I wasn't sure how the question fitted in this thread.

[Adrian]

Warminster 1 o'clock this afternoon.

Two 16?s nailed together heading to Cardiff.  A two car 150 heading for Portsmouth Harbour.

Progress ??

Yes, but walking before running.  There are just supposed to be two sets of 165/166 diagrammed daily, but they haven’t enough to run them both at 5 car.

You’d have also seen a 3 car (166213) at about 1500.  Stated elsewhere they are supposed to be running daily at 0730, 0930, 1530, and 1730 from Cardiff, and 1123, 1323, 1923 and 2123 from Portsmouth Harbour.

Paul

0830 Cardiff to Portsmouth, 1223 return from Portsmouth and 1630 from Cardiff also seem to be 5-car now - but perhaps it's a 158 + 150 diagram?

[Clan Line]

Warminster 1 o'clock this afternoon.

Two 16?s nailed together heading to Cardiff.  A two car 150 heading for Portsmouth Harbour.

Progress ??

Yes, but walking before running.  There are just supposed to be two sets of 165/166 diagrammed daily, but they haven’t enough to run them both at 5 car.

You’d have also seen a 3 car (166213) at about 1500.  Stated elsewhere they are supposed to be running daily at 0730, 0930, 1530, and 1730 from Cardiff, and 1123, 1323, 1923 and 2123 from Portsmouth Harbour.

Paul

0830 Cardiff to Portsmouth, 1223 return from Portsmouth and 1630 from Cardiff also seem to be 5-car now - but perhaps it's a 158 + 150 diagram?

The one I saw was definitely a 16? combo - too many doors for 15?s !

[phile]

The 0830 Cardiff to Portsmouth  etc., is booked 158+150 detaching the 150 at Bristol TM^▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) for SPM^▸ (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot))   and the 1223 ex Portsmouth Harbour does similar i reverse.  According to RTT^» (Real Time Trains - website) both ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) ran to and from Depot.

[Dispatch Box]

Are they finally going to bin those awful pacers, class 142 I think?.

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) haven't had any 142s for over seven years.

Arriva trains wales did back last summer though.

[phile]

Are they finally going to bin those awful pacers, class 142 I think?.

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) haven't had any 142s for over seven years.

Arriva trains wales did back last summer though.

Transport for Wales who took over still have them now.