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« on: April 02, 2023, 12:44:57 »

Following on from the discussion about an alleged 19 coach train I was thinking about the Zone numbers painted on the platform.

What is the highest number you have seen?

Mine is 12



But where?
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2023, 17:08:28 »

Following on from the discussion about an alleged 19 coach train I was thinking about the Zone numbers painted on the platform.

What is the highest number you have seen?

Mine is 12



But where?

I am wondering if it might be Plymouth, where I believe a train of 150 / 158s can come in behind a long distance express.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2023, 17:53:04 »

No afraid not.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2023, 19:45:58 »

It could be Reading, for one, though some other places have platforms as long.

While the zones are obviously meant to correspond to coaches, these vary in length, so which are they based on? They have actually been marked at 20 m spacing. This seems very odd for Reading, where the trains you'd need zones for have 26 m coaches, and most of the rest are 23 m. But even platforms 4-6 (where 20 m coaches are the rule) are long enough (260 m) for 12 zone marks.

The through platforms are longer, of course, and while the marks can be seen on Google Earth they can't be read and only the ends of the platforms are visible. So P14, which is clearest, would have 14 if they run all the way between the visible marks at the ends (and P12-16 are all 280 m long). P8-11 are even longer, at 320 m, but do not seem to be marked over their full length.

SWR» (South Western Railway - about) announced a pilot scheme to put zone markings in a few stations, but I have no idea when. (SWR don't date their news items, and this one is not even in their "news" listing (which is dated).)
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2023, 19:50:33 »

Well you are much closer than Plymouth but not quite correct. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2023, 20:34:39 »

SWR» (South Western Railway - about) announced a pilot scheme to put zone markings in a few stations, but I have no idea when. (SWR don't date their news items, and this one is not even in their "news" listing (which is dated).)

Markings have appeared at Pinhoe station, identifying Zones 1 thru 6, which is interesting as the Up platform is 'front three coaches only'
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2023, 22:34:31 »

SWR» (South Western Railway - about) announced a pilot scheme to put zone markings in a few stations, but I have no idea when. (SWR don't date their news items, and this one is not even in their "news" listing (which is dated).)

Markings have appeared at Pinhoe station, identifying Zones 1 thru 6, which is interesting as the Up platform is 'front three coaches only'

The original pilot scheme list was Sway, Haslemere, Brockenhurst, Hilsea and Clapham Junction's platform 9. So it looks as if they may have moved on to a general deployment. Mind you, I'm not sure there is enough room on a platform largely occupied by copers and a wide blinding yellow knobbly strip.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2023, 07:04:34 »

Whilst it's obvious Melksham would qualify, I'm wondering if Taunton has a zone 12.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2023, 09:25:52 »

Whilst it's obvious Melksham would qualify, I'm wondering if Taunton has a zone 12.

On those lines ... Are Zones 1 and 2 combined into a single "Zone 12" at Dilton Marsh  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2023, 09:28:46 »

I am not sure if Taunton has a 12, but the photo is not from there.  (Nor indeed Dilton Marsh)
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2023, 11:24:30 »

Whilst it's obvious Melksham would qualify,

Just for Melksham ! 

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2023, 11:25:45 »

Didcot/
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2023, 11:32:21 »

Didcot/

Well we are narrowing it down.

Looking at a map it is east of this guess and west of an earlier suggestion of Reading.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2023, 11:52:36 »

Didcot/

Well we are narrowing it down.

Looking at a map it is east of this guess and west of an earlier suggestion of Reading.

Probably SWR» (South Western Railway - about) - Basingstoke?
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2023, 11:54:42 »

Nope.
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