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Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
 
Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:25, 16th November 2014
 
From the Bristol Post:

Survey reveals 20 million motorists would risk driving through floodwater

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1.36 million male drivers would risk driving through flood water that^s up to knee height ^ just 30cm can move a car.

More than two thirds of UK drivers ^ 20 million in total ^ would still risk an accident by driving through flood water, a new survey has revealed.

Following the wettest winter on record, the Environment Agency and the AA commissioned the new research.

It found the top accident blackspot in the UK is in Newark, Nottinghamshire where a staggering 96 motorists have had to be rescued in the past five years after trying to drive through a flooded ford.

Other locations with large numbers of rescues include Water Gate Lane in Leicester and the ford in Bucklebury, Berkshire.

Two years ago a 77-year-old man died at Chew Stoke, Somerset after he tried to drive through a rain-swollen stream in his 4x4. The vehicle was swept downstream and became wedged under a footbridge trapping the driver.

All of the AA^s top 20 flood rescue spots are in England, with 12 located at fords. There have been 21,687 AA flood rescues since 2009. Serious accidents occur each year by drivers taking unnecessary risks and going ahead with a journey despite Environment Agency flood warnings.

The largest number of rescues from flood water on a single day was Christmas Eve 2013 ^ with 642 rescues. The Environment Agency issued more than 450 flood warnings and alerts on the same day.

Drivers are being encouraged to check flood risk information for their entire journey before setting out.

The survey of more than 19,000 AA members, carried out by Populus, also found that:

Twice as many men (equating to 1.36 million drivers) than women (680,000 drivers) would risk driving through flood water that^s up to knee height ^ just 30cm can move a car.

Two in five (44%) members would choose another route in the event of flood warnings. Those in the East Midlands would be most likely to do this (48%), and those in London the least likely to (39%).

Only just over a third of members would turn around and go another way if the road ahead was flooded. Men are more likely to take risks than women ^ 66% of male drivers compared with 54% of female drivers would risk driving through flood water.

^Too many drivers end up putting themselves in danger ^ and potentially those who come to their rescue ^ by taking unnecessary risks during flooding. It can be hard to tell what hazards lie beneath flood water, but more often than not there^s a lot of misery and a much longer delay than a well planned detour,^ said John Curtin, director of incident management and resilience at the Environment Agency.

^We need drivers to check the flood risk for their entire route before they travel. Our flood warning information on GOV.UK is updated every 15 minutes and can help anyone plan a safe journey,^ added Mr Curtin.

Darron Burness, head of the AA^s flood rescue team, said, ^During last winter, which was the wettest on record, we attended around 4,400 flood-related call-outs but many were completely avoidable. Some drivers don^t fully appreciate the dangers posed by flood water. Fords catch a lot of people out. Just because it^s a designated crossing point, don^t assume that it^s always safe to cross ^ the depth of the water and its flow rate can quickly change with the weather.^

He warns, ^Just one foot or 30 centimetres of moving water can float your car, so if you^re at all unsure of the conditions, turn round rather than risk your vehicle being swept down river.^

My highlighting - a very sad local story. CfN.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by bobm at 19:29, 16th November 2014
 
For a litany of people driving through floodwater when they really shouldn't you should read about the Land's End ford between Twyford and Woodley near Reading.

This was from 2012 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-18276551 - but it has continued since, with the most recent incident only last week when a woman and her children had to be rescued.

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Posted by ChrisB at 19:32, 16th November 2014
 
People think that their car will protect them in all conditions, particularly 4x4 drivers

If the water is deep enough that you wouldn't get out of your car into it, don't try & drive through it. Period.

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:00, 16th November 2014
 
I drive a Mercedes Sprinter van. Quite robust, high axle height - but frankly rubbish traction, rear wheel drive only.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Two relevant incidents of note:

1. Flooding on a B road - seeing an oncoming lorry get through the water, I decided I could then do so - but I noted car drivers from both directions were doing U turns to avoid the water hazard - quite rightly;

2. Ford in spate, in the Chew Valley (Somerset) - approaching down a narrow lane with caution, I assessed the situation and decided not to attempt it, but to reverse (somewhat laboriously!) and find an alternative route.

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by LiskeardRich at 20:07, 16th November 2014
 
I drove through a puddle on Friday and my car electrics went like it had been possessed all evening on Friday until I decided to disconnect the battery.
My 4 electric windows were opening and closing, the locks locking and unlocking themselves. and the hazards flashing like mad!
Its now dried off and ok fortunately.
I definitely wouldn't risk a flood if a puddle made my electrics go mad!

Slightly on topic as related to my wet electrics:
CfN - Is Holders of Congresbury still trading? If so do you know if they are helpful? My car radio is asking for code since I disconnected the battery, and as they supplied my car new I've been told they may hold the code. (They also serviced it until the car moved to Cornwall in 2012 looking at the service book)

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:22, 16th November 2014
 
Holders of Congresbury are indeed still very much in business, and from what I've heard (not used them personally), very helpful.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

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Posted by stuving at 21:03, 16th November 2014
 
I got caught in scarily deep flood water once. October 30th 2000, a Monday morning going to work on a busy rural road, and on a normal day you were often nose-to-tail. So as it got light and you could see the runoff from the fields cascading onto the road, to start off it was just a bit slower than usual. The water got deeper as we left Arborfield Cross on the A327 towards Reading, and now it was a question of following the car in front or trying to turn round - which was much the more difficult option. I never made a single decision to risk it - it literally crept up on us, and once you are in it, and it is getting deeper, there is no guarantee going back will be any better.

All the time I was expecting a car ahead to stop and we would all be in trouble. However, we got all the way - over the Loddon at Parrot Bridge (not that you could see the river as such), about a mile or maybe more. I though at the time the road must have very level, but it isn't - in which case it was runoff using the road to reach the river. That could still get deeper anywhere the road gradient changes, so I still reckon that was very lucky indeed - for a lot of people.

For the next couple of days (my memory says it was over a week, but my memory is wrong) the only way from Wokingham to Reading was on the M4. That was unprecedented then, but it's happened several times since.

I'm still not sure if I think I was stupid, we were all individually stupid, or just collectively stupid (which is not the same thing). Or maybe it was always likely to happen just due to the timing, and no one person could do much about it.

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by TonyK at 22:26, 16th November 2014
 
I had an experience after driving a diesel car through a swollen ford, a little faster than should have been the case. It was similar in some aspects to the bit in the film Apollo 13, where the instrument panel lights up, and Tom Hanks announces "Houston, we have a problem!" It wouldn't start the following morning. I had assumed that a diesel would not suffer the problems of wet points and coil, but overlooked the ^800 effect of a wet alternator. Thankfully, I was not paying, but ever since, I have approached water on the road with caution.

I take the crown of the road, and, mindful of the possibility of hidden holes, I drive so slowly as to not raise a wave. If the water rises too far up the front wheels for my liking, I reverse out, dismount, find a stick, and test the depth. This time, I would be paying.

I watched a fool follow a 4x4 across the ford at Tarr Steps once, in an ordinary car. Thankfully for the local ecology, he emerged on the opposite side having lost only the bottom of his front bumper and the panel below the engine. The car stopped dead within 100 metres. I parked and walked across the bridge. The tow truck arrived as I was leaving the pub, having finished a very acceptable lunch.

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by JayMac at 23:12, 16th November 2014
 
There's a ford near me at Henbury, where the mighty Hazel Brook crosses the B4055, that often attracts the idiot motorist when it is in spate. Thing is with this one though is that there is a perfectly serviceable bridge right next to it for light vehicles, yet some motorists don't even want to go 10yds out of their way.

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Posted by stuving at 23:32, 16th November 2014
 
It's not just here, either. On Friday night two cars were swept away in France on Ponts submersibles - what Americans call low water bridges. Four people were drowned as a result. This was in the Massif Central, where they are quite common on small roads, and the drivers were locals - in one case only a few hundred metres from home.

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by LiskeardRich at 23:33, 16th November 2014
 
 A friends car was written off by an oncoming car doing what that fiesta is doing. She'd slowed to almost walking pace through the flood, but an oncoming land rover didn't slow, and put a tidal wave up over her car and into the electrics and such,

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:41, 3rd September 2017
 
From the BBC:

Cornwall floods leave motorists trapped in vehicles

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Polperro High Street was left under nearly 4ft of water

People were trapped in vehicles and roads were closed as surface water flooding hit parts of Cornwall.

Overnight rainfall caused water to reach heights of 4ft (121cm) in some places on Sunday.

A flood alert was issued by the Environment Agency, who said the main areas of concern were the rivers Camel, Allen and Bodmin Town Leat.

The fire service advised road users to avoid attempting to drive through flood water.

Cornwall Fire and Rescue Service crews from Launceston, St Austell, Wadebridge and Looe were among those called out to several rescues across the county.

At least six people had to be brought to safety by water rescue teams after becoming trapped in their vehicles, they said.

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Water rescue teams from Bude and Bodmin were deployed

A spokesman from the Environment Agency said all flood defences in the area were holding and no rivers had broken their banks.

He said the flooding was thought to be largely "surface water" caused by blocked drains and heavy rainfall.

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The fire service said it could take as little as 60cm of water to trap a car



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Posted by Pb_devon at 07:26, 4th September 2017
 
The centre photo is a D&SRFS image....I wonder why they thought it necessary to 'pixelate' out the branding on the van?!  Especially when it's clearly a certain hire company!

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Posted by LiskeardRich at 07:57, 4th September 2017
 
The centre photo is a D&SRFS image....I wonder why they thought it necessary to 'pixelate' out the branding on the van?!  Especially when it's clearly a certain hire company!

I've commented somewhere else that the pixelating does nothing to disguise a very obvious brand logo.

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Posted by Timmer at 09:50, 4th September 2017
 
The centre photo is a D&SRFS image....I wonder why they thought it necessary to 'pixelate' out the branding on the van?!  Especially when it's clearly a certain hire company!

I've commented somewhere else that the pixelating does nothing to disguise a very obvious brand logo.
And can be quite clearly seen on the bonnet!

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Posted by old original at 18:05, 5th September 2017
 
If I remember rightly, if you're involved in a road traffic accident and require an ambulance, you or your insurance will get a bill for said ambulance.

I would hope that these "people" (restraining myself) would get a bill from the fire service to cover to cost of pulling them out rather than coming from my council tax. Anyone who thinks they can drive through three and a half feet of flood water deserve to have their bank account drained.

Ranty rant....

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Posted by Surrey 455 at 21:05, 5th September 2017
 
The centre photo is a D&SRFS image....I wonder why they thought it necessary to 'pixelate' out the branding on the van?!  Especially when it's clearly a certain hire company!

Does this need adding to the abbreviations list? Google has no idea what D&SRFS is and neither do I.


Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by ChrisB at 21:08, 5th September 2017
 
Devon & ?? Fire Service?

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:10, 6th September 2017
 
Yes, it's the Devon & Somerset Fire & Rescue Service - see https://www.dsfire.gov.uk/index.cfm?siteCategoryId=1 for details.

I shall add it to the Coffee Shop forum's page of acronyms and abbreviations, as requested.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by ChrisB at 08:20, 6th September 2017
 
Presumably Devon & Somerset Rescue & Fire Service? (D&SRFS)?

Or is it actually D&SFRS?

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Posted by grahame at 08:45, 6th September 2017
 
Presumably Devon & Somerset Rescue & Fire Service? (D&SRFS)?

Or is it actually D&SFRS?

Wasn't the issue in Cornwall? 

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by ChrisB at 09:01, 6th September 2017
 
Maybe they sent a water rescue team to help out?

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Posted by stuving at 09:10, 6th September 2017
 
Whatever it said when first posted, that picture in the BBC story is now credited: "Cornwall Fire and Rescue Service".

The other pictures are credited to local units of the CFRS.

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by LiskeardRich at 09:56, 6th September 2017
 
The centre photo is a D&SRFS image....I wonder why they thought it necessary to 'pixelate' out the branding on the van?!  Especially when it's clearly a certain hire company!

Does this need adding to the abbreviations list? Google has no idea what D&SRFS is and neither do I.



Especially as the photos belonged to CFRS (Cornwall fire rescue service)

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Pb_devon at 21:42, 6th September 2017
 
Many apologies for leading you all up the garden path with my wrong acronym (and mistyping it didn't help!).  In my previous existance I had lots of dealings with the 'east of the Tamar' fire brigade hence using the acronym out of habit, rather than engaging brain.

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Posted by chrisr_75 at 00:27, 9th September 2017
 
If I remember rightly, if you're involved in a road traffic accident and require an ambulance, you or your insurance will get a bill for said ambulance.

I would hope that these "people" (restraining myself) would get a bill from the fire service to cover to cost of pulling them out rather than coming from my council tax. Anyone who thinks they can drive through three and a half feet of flood water deserve to have their bank account drained.

Ranty rant....

Not sure about a bill for the recovery (likely to be charged at standard police rates if you block a road), but the police can certainly pursue a prosecution of careless or dangerous driving if you become stuck on a flooded road or I f you choose to pass 'road closed' signs.

I have a vehicle which is more than capable of safely getting through a metre of water with a very minor modification, do I deserve to have my bank account drained?!

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by ChrisB at 20:32, 9th September 2017
 
If you then got stuck too, yes

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Posted by ellendune at 22:28, 9th September 2017
 
I have a vehicle which is more than capable of safely getting through a metre of water with a very minor modification, do I deserve to have my bank account drained?!

But you cannot see what is under the water.

1) Can you see the edge of the road - you could end up in a ditch
2) The current can be very strong deep water moving at only slow speeds can exert a huge force and wash a vehicle away.
3) Manhole covers may have blown and be invisible - will you be sure that a wheel will not get stuck in an open manhole cover?

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by chrisr_75 at 22:44, 9th September 2017
 
I have a vehicle which is more than capable of safely getting through a metre of water with a very minor modification, do I deserve to have my bank account drained?!

But you cannot see what is under the water.

1) Can you see the edge of the road - you could end up in a ditch
2) The current can be very strong deep water moving at only slow speeds can exert a huge force and wash a vehicle away.
3) Manhole covers may have blown and be invisible - will you be sure that a wheel will not get stuck in an open manhole cover?

I am well aware of the dangers of driving into deep water. The previous poster suggested that I should have my bank account drained simply because I think, and know, I could drive through standing water of a metre or so depth which I find a very odd concept indeed!

I've driven through deep water, deep mud, deep snow uneventfully without inconveniencing anyone else. Why should I be financially deprived for that?! On a few occasions I've dragged other unfortunate folk from floods and managed not to get all judgemental/condescending on them. Yes, it's pretty stupid getting stuck and technically breaking the law, but at the end of the day we all make mistakes from time to time.

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:53, 9th September 2017
 
On two occasions in the past, I have driven my Mercedes Sprinter van through standing floodwater, because I knew that it would not be more than two feet deep, on those particular stretches of road.

Any deeper than that, and I wouldn't attempt it.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


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Posted by ellendune at 23:00, 9th September 2017
 
I am well aware of the dangers of driving into deep water. The previous poster suggested that I should have my bank account drained simply because I think, and know, I could drive through standing water of a metre or so depth which I find a very odd concept indeed!

If you are then fine. Some people do not understand.  I wanted it to be clear.  I was not commenting on the possibility of a fine for trying. 

I forget to mention the possibility that a submerged bridge may have been washed away.

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Posted by chrisr_75 at 23:28, 9th September 2017
 
On two occasions in the past, I have driven my Mercedes Sprinter van through standing floodwater, because I knew that it would not be more than two feet deep, on those particular stretches of road.

Any deeper than that, and I wouldn't attempt it.  [Image from here is not available to guests]



A previous colleague of mine once took our employers Transit tipper through a flooded stretch of the A487 between Machynlleth and Aberystwyth whilst I took a longer avoiding route through not wishing to attempt the floods in my Landrover...Apparently the water was lapping up around the windscreen...the van survived which is perhaps testament to the durability of the humble 'smiley face' Ford Transit!

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Posted by chrisr_75 at 23:48, 9th September 2017
 
I am well aware of the dangers of driving into deep water. The previous poster suggested that I should have my bank account drained simply because I think, and know, I could drive through standing water of a metre or so depth which I find a very odd concept indeed!

If you are then fine. Some people do not understand.  I wanted it to be clear.  I was not commenting on the possibility of a fine for trying. 


Indeed. There have been a couple of cases in the past 10 years or so of people dying as a result of being washed away (one very close to where I live in fact, just a few months ago) and if I remember correctly, one of those where the driver survived resulted in a death by careless driving charge and subsequent imprisonment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-11039483

Moving water is the biggest risk when attempting to navigate floods in a road vehicle, flood water is especially deceptive as it generally appears flat and still on the surface but can still be moving with some considerable velocity. Fording rivers which are in a normal flow state is a different kettle of fish entirely.

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:55, 9th September 2017
 
Indeed: driving into moving floodwater is generally asking for trouble.  I wouldn't do that.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:55, 21st January 2018
 
I drive a Mercedes Sprinter van. Quite robust, high axle height - but frankly rubbish traction, rear wheel drive only.  [Image from here is not available to guests]
Two relevant incidents of note:
1. Flooding on a B road - seeing an oncoming lorry get through the water, I decided I could then do so - but I noted car drivers from both directions were doing U turns to avoid the water hazard - quite rightly;
2. Ford in spate, in the Chew Valley (Somerset) - approaching down a narrow lane with caution, I assessed the situation and decided not to attempt it, but to reverse (somewhat laboriously!) and find an alternative route.

Two more incidents of note this evening:

1. Flooding on Mill Lane, near Wrington (a narrow lane, with warning signs for 'weak bridge') - I know that road, but driving cautiously onward, in the dark, almost before I knew it, I had lost visibility due to the flood water covering my headlamps.  Keeping my head (and forward movement) I managed to exit the hazard - while thinking, that's the last time I'll try that one!  [Image from here is not available to guests]

2. Flooding on another lane, just before joining the A38 (a similar narrow lane, with 'flood' warning triangle signs at the approach) - I have done that one before, but in broad daylight.  This time, in the dark, and with much more water, it was rather more exciting - that's the last time I'll try that one, too!  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Fair play to my Mercedes Sprinter 'what a piece of junk!', though - it got me through and out the other side, twice.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


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Posted by LiskeardRich at 22:03, 21st January 2018
 
I drive a Mercedes Sprinter van. Quite robust, high axle height - but frankly rubbish traction, rear wheel drive only.  [Image from here is not available to guests]
Two relevant incidents of note:
1. Flooding on a B road - seeing an oncoming lorry get through the water, I decided I could then do so - but I noted car drivers from both directions were doing U turns to avoid the water hazard - quite rightly;
2. Ford in spate, in the Chew Valley (Somerset) - approaching down a narrow lane with caution, I assessed the situation and decided not to attempt it, but to reverse (somewhat laboriously!) and find an alternative route.

Two more incidents of note this evening:

1. Flooding on Mill Lane, near Wrington (a narrow lane, with warning signs for 'weak bridge') - I know that road, but driving cautiously onward, in the dark, almost before I knew it, I had lost visibility due to the flood water covering my headlamps.  Keeping my head (and forward movement) I managed to exit the hazard - while thinking, that's the last time I'll try that one!  [Image from here is not available to guests]

2. Flooding on another lane, just before joining the A38 (a similar narrow lane, with 'flood' warning triangle signs at the approach) - I have done that one before, but in broad daylight.  This time, in the dark, and with much more water, it was rather more exciting - that's the last time I'll try that one, too!  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Fair play to my Mercedes Sprinter 'what a piece of junk!', though - it got me through and out the other side, twice.  [Image from here is not available to guests]



It’s a disciplinary if we’re found out to have entered flood water for us.

Saying they have rubbish traction is an understatement, but I’ve found a way to improve it, traction control off, use the tiptronic gear box instead of full auto. I also try and keep my late deliveries or a heavy stack of empties over the rear axle for some downforce!

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:30, 21st January 2018
 
It’s a disciplinary if we’re found out to have entered flood water for us.

Saying they have rubbish traction is an understatement, but I’ve found a way to improve it, traction control off, use the tiptronic gear box instead of full auto. I also try and keep my late deliveries or a heavy stack of empties over the rear axle for some downforce!

With my employer, it's entirely down to the individual driver's discretion (as far as I know).  In times of severely inclement weather, the only way into parts of Wrington is through some level of floodwater - from whatever direction you approach the village.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

And I wish we had the options you describe: our Mercedes Sprinters are basic 310 manual, no gimmicks like traction control.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


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Posted by LiskeardRich at 22:50, 21st January 2018
 
It’s a disciplinary if we’re found out to have entered flood water for us.

Saying they have rubbish traction is an understatement, but I’ve found a way to improve it, traction control off, use the tiptronic gear box instead of full auto. I also try and keep my late deliveries or a heavy stack of empties over the rear axle for some downforce!

With my employer, it's entirely down to the individual driver's discretion (as far as I know).  In times of severely inclement weather, the only way into parts of Wrington is through some level of floodwater - from whatever direction you approach the village.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

And I wish we had the options you describe: our Mercedes Sprinters are basic 310 manual, no gimmicks like traction control.  [Image from here is not available to guests]



Ours are Sprinter 313 Auto with (useless) traction control, so a little more power/bigger wheel spins. The acceleration 0-55 is impressive and then bang into the limiter.
Our biggest type of customer is farms, (in winter, summer is holiday lets) so we tend to get stuck often, although I’ve yet to get stuck myself!

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:08, 21st January 2018
 
In times of severely inclement weather, the only way into parts of Wrington is through some level of floodwater - from whatever direction you approach the village.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

And, just for the record, the main route out of Wrington towards the A38 is a bus route - and those single deckers simply blast their way through the floodwater.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


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Posted by 1st fan at 12:42, 23rd January 2018
 
There used to be a 'jackass?' style video on Youtube of a bloke in the USA driving his van through some a few bits of serious floodwater on a road. He had attached some steel sheeting to the front in a snowplow shape and just put pedal to the metal. It created a giant wave on each side that soaked the camera person. Sadly I've checked but I can't find it anymore.

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:35, 23rd January 2018
 
Oh, the irony.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

From the BBC:

Essex and Suffolk Water van driver gets stuck in water

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The Essex and Suffolk Water van got stuck in about 4ft (1.2m) of water at Buttsbury Wash near Billericay on Monday afternoon.

A water firm driver ended up having to flee his vehicle after becoming stuck in floodwaters.

The Essex and Suffolk Water van got stuck in about 4ft (1.2m) of water at Buttsbury Ford near Billericay on Monday afternoon.

A spokesman for the water company said it was aware of the incident and said its driver was "OK" following the episode.

Stephen Owens, of Billericay, spotted the van while out cycling in the area.

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The water company said it was aware of the incident and said its driver was 'OK' following the episode

He said the ford was part of his regular cycling route and he told how he had often seen vehicles trapped there over the years. "But I have never seen one like this," he said.

Mr Owens said when he arrived the driver was still trying to get out of the van before asking him to try and help him push it out of the waters. Despite their efforts, the van could not be moved by hand, he said.

It is not yet known whether the driver was on a call-out at the time of the incident.

A company spokesman said: "Thankfully the driver is unharmed and we are making arrangements for the vehicle to be safely recovered as quickly as possible."

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Buttsbury Ford has claimed a number of victims over the years


To be fair, looking at those water levels, I wouldn't have attempted that one - even in a Mercedes Sprinter.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


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Posted by JayMac at 21:10, 23rd January 2018
 
That van has (or rather had) some expensive scientific water testing equipment aboard, as well as a specially designed refrigeration unit for keeping samples at the correct temperature.

Unfortunately the water testing equipment wasn't calibrated for depth!  [Image from here is not available to guests] [Image from here is not available to guests] [Image from here is not available to guests]

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by chuffed at 20:12, 19th November 2025
 
Including those of us  that drove a Waitrose 'Sprinter' van,,,,shome mishtake shurely....around the flooded fields of Nailsea for a good 10 years...

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:34, 19th November 2025
 
Ahem. [Image from here is not available to guests]

I drove my Mercedes Sprinter van through various flooded locations in Yatton, the Wrington Vale and Chew Valley - not Nailsea.

They were indeed a good ten years. [Image from here is not available to guests]

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:18, 1st February 2026
 
Another 'lorry on its side' story, from the BBC:

Somerset farmer rescues lorry driver from flooded road

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A lorry driver has been rescued from his vehicle by tractor after he got stuck driving through flood water.

The driver got stuck on the Godney Road near Wells, Somerset, which had been flooded since Storm Chandra brought rain to the county.

Somerset Council declared a major incident earlier this week and said further flooding was possible, particularly in Moorland, Saltmoor and Currymoor.

Michael Churches, who runs the Godney farm next to the flooded area, said: "We have to put up signs ourselves for our farm and wedding venue, someone who ends up next to the flooded area has nowhere to go." Churches, who also runs the Glastonbury Wedding and Events venue, said he used his tractor to rescue the lorry driver.

"The driver was fine, he didn't realise how flooded the road was," he said. Churches said he will work with a recovery company to remove the lorry from the field once the water levels go down.


Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:14, 2nd February 2026
 
From the BBC:

Isle of Wight flood warnings as motorists stranded in deep water

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Firefighters were called to help rescue people from three vehicles stuck in deep water in Pondwell Hill, near Ryde

Flood warnings have been issued across the Isle of Wight, with several roads impassable and vehicles stranded following flash flooding.

The Environment Agency (EA) issued an urgent flood warning for Carisbrooke and Hunnyhill on the Lukely Brook in Newport. A second flood warning was put in place just before 19:30 GMT for Blackwater and Newport on the River Medina after 35mm of rain fell earlier and the EA urged residents to "act now".

Flood alerts were also in force for St John's in Ryde, the Eastern Yar, the River Medina and Gurnard Luck. Firefighters were called to help rescue people from three vehicles which became stuck in deep water in Pondwell Hill, near Ryde.

Flooding was being reported extensively across the island on Sunday evening, with people posting on social media that they were having to abandon their vehicles. Homes in Whitwell and Carisbrooke were the among those flooded, according to Facebook posts on the Isle of Wight Community Information Group.

Rain was forecast to continue until 22:00, with river levels and flood risks starting to reduce by 01:00, according to the EA. A flood warning means flooding is expected and people should protect themselves and loved ones, moving to a safe place, along with pets and valuables, it said.

People are advised to move to higher ground or the upper floor of a building and turn off the gas, electricity and water if it is safe to do so. Flood protection equipment should also be put in place.

Posting on Facebook, Isle of Wight Council warned the Newport Quay Arts Centre on the Lukely Brook and the Aquatics Centre at Vicarage Walk were at risk of flooding. Water levels would be "very high" at Caesars Road and Old Westminster Lane, it said, adding the river could burst its banks "flooding roads and parked cars".


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Without wishing to appear smug, I was a professional van driver for ten years before I retired, and in that time I did drive through some floodwater. However, I did so only when I considered it to be realistic: I would look at the water level, knowing what my van could cope with, and decide accordingly. I wouldn't have done the above. [Image from here is not available to guests] [Image from here is not available to guests] [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by Mark A at 09:06, 2nd February 2026
 
An issue is that depending on the nature of the flood, water levels change very quickly. Something breaches or blocks, something overtops, or the weather dumps water into a channel upstream and e.g. within minutes a householder finds 4 feet of water in what was a previously dry hallway.

Mark

Re: Driving road vehicles into floodwater - merged topics and posts, ongoing discussion
Posted by broadgage at 10:25, 2nd February 2026
 
One of my favourite flood videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrflH6KvPwo

 
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