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 91 
 on: April 28, 2025, 11:56:50 
Started by Mark A - Last post by Witham Bobby
They're struggling with demand and also with the age of their fleet of trains. A roundup from Chiltern on this link.

Mark

https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/capacity-challenges-2025



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We have been working with the Department for Transport on modernising our fleet since 2021
Chiltern Railways

F O U R  years to not get to a decision yet.  And, although I know this should require incredulity, I guess it's actually unsurprising

Are we entiltled to ask what we are paying civil servants in the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) to do with their time?

 92 
 on: April 28, 2025, 11:17:44 
Started by Mark A - Last post by ray951
According to the Oxford Clarion https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social/post/3lnuhiadpd22q Chiltern have signed a deal to run 10 locomotive hauled Mk5a sets to replace 4 locomotive hauled Mk3 sets.

They were previously used by Trans Pennine Express (TPE (Trans Pennine Express)). TPE had 13 5 cars sets made up of 4 standard class and 1 first class coach. It is unclear to me whether TPE actual used all the sets as the most number of sets they had running at the same time was 4 and they also suffered from cracks similar to IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)).

I assume that as well as replacing the Mk3's they will either replace some existing Class 165/168 services or even some additional services will be added.
Will we see a return of the Oxford Flyers? Smiley

 93 
 on: April 28, 2025, 10:58:14 
Started by Mark A - Last post by Mark A
They're struggling with demand and also with the age of their fleet of trains. A roundup from Chiltern on this link.

Mark

https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/capacity-challenges-2025


 94 
 on: April 28, 2025, 10:50:32 
Started by ChrisB - Last post by IndustryInsider
Going back to route knowledge in 2021 60+ Bristol drivers used to sign Newport Hereford Oxford and Didcot as well as Worcester to Cheltenham. From next month that will be zero.

It used to be only the top link at Oxford signed the North Cotswolds, I don't know if that has changed since I finished.  The Worcester HSS (High Speed Services) drivers haven't been replaced as retirements occur. Again I don't know if there has been changes since retiring but the GWR (Great Western Railway) drivers only signed Hereford to Oxford whilst HSS did Paddington to Oxford, Didcot to Worcester via Kemble and Standish to Bristol Parkway.

So there will be shortages from the timetable change.

Oxford's second link has signed the North Cotswolds (as far as Malvern Wells) for over twenty years.  With those links growing in numbers over that time it now stands at over 70 drivers - virtually the whole depot - that sign it.

Worcester GWR driver numbers are increasing at a quicker rate than HSS drivers are decreasing.  Originally the depot was 30 HSS drivers.  It is now 22 HSS drivers and 18 GWR ones.  Worcester GWR drivers now sign to Paddington via North and South Cotswolds routes and from Bristol Parkway to Paddington.  They also sign Turbos.

HSS is dying out as people retire, and it's probably no surprise that they are now starting to be starved of route knowledge.  Morale seems to be getting quite low on the HSS side from casual conversations I've had as that fact is slowly dawning on them.

To what extent in the grand scheme of things that will result in additional crew shortages remains to be seen.

 95 
 on: April 28, 2025, 10:25:05 
Started by WSW Frome - Last post by grahame
It makes sense to add "stop" orders and indeed to call diverted trains during engineering works at various stations. 

It does happen - as an example,  during the recent closure of the St Denys to Fareham line, the SWR» (South Western Railway - about) Romsey 6 was pulled between Southampton and Romsey via Eastleigh, with the diverted long distance Cardiff to Portsmouth train making the calls at Chandlers Ford which would otherwise have been unserved.

Dilton Marsh also sets stop orders added in at times when local trains are cancelled and that makes sense. However, reports suggest that sometimes these stops are added, sometimes they are not, and that unpredictability there is off-putting and inconvenient to people wanting to use the station.

The XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) train is due to call at Gloucester from 22:00 to 22:05 which (I would presume) is the train that Infoman is talking about in his comment (no date given, so no ability to look back). As far as I can see, that should connect into a 22:13 last train to Cam and Dursley, and to Yate.    OK - it may have missed if there had been severe delays further north and it makes huge sense to arrange something from Parkway as it's far closer to Yate than is Gloucester, even though it's a double-back.   Adding further delay with a Yate stop would be novel for XC staff, and could (for we don't know how late the service from the north was) have solved one problem and created another with connections on to other places just missed.  Real solutions?  (a) put up with these things occasionally, (b) look to have a more robust system with longer recover holds and a more reliable and more money spent on problems system and (c) avoid the final service of the day when long distance connections are involved.

 96 
 on: April 28, 2025, 09:59:22 
Started by grahame - Last post by Witham Bobby
A bit more about the Railway Clearing House

Text said to be from 1935 at https://www.railwaywondersoftheworld.com/clearing-house.html

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A PROSPECTIVE passenger can walk into any station booking-office in Great Britain and purchase a ticket for practically any other station in the country - and that ticket will take him right through to his destination, irrespective of the ownership of the lines over which he may have to travel.

The traveller may buy a ticket at Dover, on the Southern Railway, for - say, Oban, served by the LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948). How is the ticket money shared?

Again, a train of goods wagons on any line will often bear the initials of all the railway companies - GWR (Great Western Railway), LMS, LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about), SR (Southern Railway / Southern Region / Scot Rail / Scottish Region (rather confusing - it depends on the context)). How is carriage paid for on the goods in these wagons - running as they do over the lines of other companies?

In both instances settlement is made through the Railway Clearing House. The story of the RCH, as it is usually known, goes back to the very early days of railway operation. At first there was no provision for through booking by passengers. It was not possible to send goods throughout the journey in the same wagon.

The travelling public soon began to demand the convenience of through booking. Merchants, too, dissatisfied with the loss and delay occasioned by transhipping goods from one company’s wagons to those of another, agitated for a system of through-invoicing for goods traffic. The railways were forced to give facilities to meet the general demand, but for a time the difficulties of settlement between the various companies were a bar to progress.


And not a computer or AI anywhere in the process.  How labour intensive and costly must this process (and all accountancy) been, back in the day!

 97 
 on: April 28, 2025, 09:43:38 
Started by grahame - Last post by ChrisB
From The Metro

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Rucksacks, handbags and ugly briefcases are dumped on empty seats, as their owners lounge on the seat next to them. And of course, there’s no thought to move their bag to floor so you can take its place.

This infuriating behaviour isn’t new, but it’s now got a name: ‘double bagging’.

Ahhh - Just go to pick it up & place it the floor - the owner will quickly grab it & do that for you....

 98 
 on: April 28, 2025, 09:03:11 
Started by Chris from Nailsea - Last post by Chris from Nailsea
From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Priority seats on London's buses and Underground will be more clearly labelled, Transport for London (TfL» (Transport for London - about)) has said.

The transport body has redesigned its seating to have a greater colour contrast and with "This is a priority seat" signs on them. It will be added to new DLR (Docklands Light Railway) and Piccadilly trains, as well as on refurbished Central and Waterloo and City line trains.

Seb Dance, deputy mayor for transport, is also asking Londoners to offer their seat to "those who may need it more than them".

TfL has said some customers who need to sit down may not always have a "please offer me a seat" badge or Sunflower lanyard. It said its new seat design matched the appearance of "please offer me a seat" badges and the Government's Blue Badge scheme, and aligned with the priority seating design already in place on the Jubilee line.

Allison Peter, deputy chair of TfL's independent Disability Advisory Group, said: "Priority seats are essential for many disabled people, including those with non-visible conditions, as well as older people. They play a vital role in enabling people to travel with confidence and stay connected in London. By looking up, offering our seat, and being mindful of non-visible disabilities, we can help to make public transport more accessible and inclusive."



Previous TfL research looked at how likely people were to get a priority seat if they needed one. It found that while many people who needed a seat got one, it was not always clear when someone needed a priority seat and people were not always paying attention to their surroundings to notice if someone needed a seat.

More than 152,000 free "please offer me a seat" badges have been issued since 2017. They can be used by people with a broad range of disabilities and conditions including chronic pain, respiratory conditions and diabetes, learning disabilities, autism, other forms of neurodivergence and mental health conditions.



 99 
 on: April 28, 2025, 08:57:31 
Started by Marlburian - Last post by Marlburian
On March 2 the Daily Express published (yet another) article about the best place in which to live, this time Twyford in Berkshire being the choice. One plus, apparently, is that it is "a quick carriage ride from the Princess of Wales’s childhood home in Bucklebury". It's unclear what sort of carriage that would be, as Bucklebury is four miles from the nearest station, and I can't see a horse drawing a carriage being very happy in Reading's traffic. (Could it use the town's controversial bus lanes?)

Eventually a local news website picked up the story, and though it retained the very tenuous royal connection (as  well as the town's proximity to Windsor), it wisely omitted the reference to quick carriage rides.

The same local website has also published a comparison of taxi fares. The full article may be behind a paywall, but it notes that "the average cost for a 4km journey in Reading is £18.06 ... with the average cost per 1km in the town being £3.39. " Four times £3.39 equals £13.56.

My friends must be lucky. On their last five taxi rides to my house from the station, they've been charged an average of £15.10 for a journey that is, at best, 5km, though drivers often take a longer route to avoid snarl-ups in Oxford Road and road works. Curiously the fares are much the same as before Lockdown.

 100 
 on: April 28, 2025, 07:38:50 
Started by grahame - Last post by grahame
From The Metro

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You’re in a huff as you hurry through a sea of commuters onto a packed Circle Line train, praying you won’t be late for work (again).

You look around for a seat and, in typical fashion, they’re all occupied – but not by people.

Rucksacks, handbags and ugly briefcases are dumped on empty seats, as their owners lounge on the seat next to them. And of course, there’s no thought to move their bag to floor so you can take its place.

This infuriating behaviour isn’t new, but it’s now got a name: ‘double bagging’.


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There’s another subset of London Underground passengers who have been labelled the worst of them all: the ‘barebackers’.

Get your mind out of the gutter – it’s a perfectly innocent term coined by Curtis Morton, co-host of the Behind the Screens podcast, in a TikTok that’s racked up nearly 100,000 views.

Essentially, barebackers – also known as rawdoggers – are people who sit without any form of entertainment and people-watch, staring at other passengers to pass the time.

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